tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post9175712853441322264..comments2024-03-21T06:54:52.136-04:00Comments on Wisdom of the West: AftermathJim H.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-34267596949374919222016-11-10T17:51:35.006-05:002016-11-10T17:51:35.006-05:00Trying to put your hands around all the connection...Trying to put your hands around all the connections of power <i>just on the Democratic side</i> is like reading 'Gravity's Rainbow' for the first time. All I know is, Sanders wasn't the candidate because the PTB in control of the DNC wanted Hillary. They, and she, misread which groups would make a coalition that could elect her -- and everyone else outside those groups were Mongo, At The Momenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00973606827337262084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-18795920196002765472016-11-10T16:50:55.922-05:002016-11-10T16:50:55.922-05:00Davidly: Yes. I should plead that in context, &quo...Davidly: Yes. I should plead that in context, "Socialist" is a label, and like all labels, in the eye of the beholder. In fact, Bernie wasn't a member of the party until it was convenient for him to be. Do I advocate Soviet-style Bolshevik/Menshevik/Xshevik infighting? Of course not. The label and the beholding are the relevant bits. Also: you're absolutely right that it's Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-86026010794051781552016-11-10T13:28:52.039-05:002016-11-10T13:28:52.039-05:00i too opine that bernie coulda beat him - for an a...i too opine that bernie coulda beat him - for an argument see<br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/10/hillary-clinton-lost-bernie-sanders-could-have-won/<br /><br />mistah charley, ph.d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06303695341246058680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-66838335195796896782016-11-10T13:05:21.815-05:002016-11-10T13:05:21.815-05:00With respect to Sanders, we are arguing counterfac...With respect to Sanders, we are arguing counterfactual conditionals. We can argue all day but never prove a thing. For, if we learned nothing from this election cycle. polling is shit.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-88346865527418808592016-11-10T07:34:05.471-05:002016-11-10T07:34:05.471-05:00I'll let Carl Beijer state my opinion on Sande...I'll let Carl Beijer state my opinion on Sanders.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.carlbeijer.com/2016/05/you-have-choice.html" rel="nofollow">You can elect Bernie Sanders, or you can elect Donald Trump</a>.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-75157886926024750772016-11-10T06:25:54.787-05:002016-11-10T06:25:54.787-05:00I agree with Landru about Sanders in one aspect of...I agree with Landru about Sanders in one aspect of one regard. I don't think we can know how he'd've fared. There are too many factors. One'd sooner be able to beat Bobby Fischer in a chess match. You'd have to dig him up and reanimate him first. And while I don't see him as a socialist in any real sense of the word, that's what would have been used to rally against davidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754707934311038544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-22877952514028197112016-11-09T23:06:46.485-05:002016-11-09T23:06:46.485-05:00You could add "did the TPP cost the Dems crit...You could add "did the TPP cost the Dems critical votes in Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania?"<br /><br />http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/the-high-price-of-the-trans-pacific-partnership<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-23165561825288234422016-11-09T22:21:29.956-05:002016-11-09T22:21:29.956-05:00I'm a Federal contractor, when I have a job. U...I'm a Federal contractor, when I have a job. Usually in public health. I couldn't agree more.Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-65513795820057078132016-11-09T17:23:03.844-05:002016-11-09T17:23:03.844-05:00Landru, Reread my reply above. I read you right an...Landru, Reread my reply above. I read you right and I am agreeing on Bernie—emphatically.Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-4756727165025679162016-11-09T17:21:39.096-05:002016-11-09T17:21:39.096-05:00Look. Shit just got real. Wisdoc is a Fed employee...Look. Shit just got real. Wisdoc is a Fed employee, worried about her job & retirement under new boss. Wisdomie is reliant on Fed science funding for environment and climate research. Wisdaughter is afraid for her personal safety from grabby Trumpites. Wesdom has a Muslim gf. Me, I'm like you, deeply sad. It's my family and their well-being and future I fear for. Gutpunched. Verging Jim H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02088100982761595050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191084196584249823.post-44593880915753545632016-11-09T17:08:10.082-05:002016-11-09T17:08:10.082-05:00Thanks for a good and clearheaded analysis. I'...Thanks for a good and clearheaded analysis. I'm still wallowing in a dark room.<br /><br />Maddow claims that third-party candidates did cost HRC in Wisconsin and other places (none of which are Pennsylvania). I'm not convinced, although both third-party candidates were awful and had no business being in the race.<br /><br />And let's not even pretend that Sanders would've mopped Landruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954074164878242561noreply@blogger.com